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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://avenue4learning.com/2009/03/03/laptops-vs-handhelds/comment-page-1/#comment-132</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@BK-Teach What&#039;s done on a Touch app (sans accelerometer) for educational use that can&#039;t be done on a Netbook (sans Apple tax)?  Curious to hear your thoughts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@BK-Teach What&#8217;s done on a Touch app (sans accelerometer) for educational use that can&#8217;t be done on a Netbook (sans Apple tax)?  Curious to hear your thoughts.</p>
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		<title>By: BK-Teach</title>
		<link>http://avenue4learning.com/2009/03/03/laptops-vs-handhelds/comment-page-1/#comment-131</link>
		<dc:creator>BK-Teach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 00:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed. I think the students would go for Touches.  But students don&#039;t always know what is the best learning tool.  Neither do teachers.

What we really need is a Apple Tablet/Netbook.  This would have some of the awesome creation tools and all the wonderfulness of the Touch apps.  

Apple are you listening?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed. I think the students would go for Touches.  But students don&#8217;t always know what is the best learning tool.  Neither do teachers.</p>
<p>What we really need is a Apple Tablet/Netbook.  This would have some of the awesome creation tools and all the wonderfulness of the Touch apps.  </p>
<p>Apple are you listening?</p>
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		<title>By: Russ</title>
		<link>http://avenue4learning.com/2009/03/03/laptops-vs-handhelds/comment-page-1/#comment-129</link>
		<dc:creator>Russ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 02:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Found this interesting thread on Classroom 2.0.

http://is.gd/mZDn

This thread addresses many of the &quot;lacking specifics&quot; concerns I had.  It&#039;s fun reading about what schools are doing with Touches in the concrete, not the abstract.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Found this interesting thread on Classroom 2.0.</p>
<p><a href="http://is.gd/mZDn" rel="nofollow">http://is.gd/mZDn</a></p>
<p>This thread addresses many of the &#8220;lacking specifics&#8221; concerns I had.  It&#8217;s fun reading about what schools are doing with Touches in the concrete, not the abstract.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Allen</title>
		<link>http://avenue4learning.com/2009/03/03/laptops-vs-handhelds/comment-page-1/#comment-128</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 16:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, students can Skype with a Touch that has a few modifications. You can search for the video on YouTube (searching YouTube is time consuming on our network, otherwise I&#039;d provide you with a link). One of our students has a video on there.

Having said that, I would steal lean for the Netbooks if you are worried about cost because of the lack of creation on the Touch. I&#039;ve thought about a classroom 1:1 situation with Touches, but in the end, I&#039;d lean toward Netbooks simply because of the creation aspect. Having said that, I would still prefer actual laptops. I&#039;ve never been a fan of getting something because it&#039;s cheaper. Yugos were cheaper, too...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, students can Skype with a Touch that has a few modifications. You can search for the video on YouTube (searching YouTube is time consuming on our network, otherwise I&#8217;d provide you with a link). One of our students has a video on there.</p>
<p>Having said that, I would steal lean for the Netbooks if you are worried about cost because of the lack of creation on the Touch. I&#8217;ve thought about a classroom 1:1 situation with Touches, but in the end, I&#8217;d lean toward Netbooks simply because of the creation aspect. Having said that, I would still prefer actual laptops. I&#8217;ve never been a fan of getting something because it&#8217;s cheaper. Yugos were cheaper, too&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Russ</title>
		<link>http://avenue4learning.com/2009/03/03/laptops-vs-handhelds/comment-page-1/#comment-127</link>
		<dc:creator>Russ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 00:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michelle,
First of all, thanks for the shout out!

I agree that  &quot;if given the same options of using a Netbook or an iTouch with similar capabilities, they’ll go for the smaller tool.&quot;  However, the two choices do not have similar capabilities.

Students cannot Skype with a Touch.  Students can&#039;t record themselves playing real musical instruments with a Touch.  Students can&#039;t create rich content on a Touch.  Students can&#039;t even multi-task on a Touch. 

I can see having a few of them (5-10) around for listening to podcasts or spending a few minutes on Google Earth, but choosing 30 Touches in lieu of 30 netbooks?  I&#039;m yet to be convinced.

As Apple themselves demonstrate, the iPod Touch is a sidekick to a laptop, not a replacement.
http://www.apple.com/education/teachers-professors/mobile-learning.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michelle,<br />
First of all, thanks for the shout out!</p>
<p>I agree that  &#8220;if given the same options of using a Netbook or an iTouch with similar capabilities, they’ll go for the smaller tool.&#8221;  However, the two choices do not have similar capabilities.</p>
<p>Students cannot Skype with a Touch.  Students can&#8217;t record themselves playing real musical instruments with a Touch.  Students can&#8217;t create rich content on a Touch.  Students can&#8217;t even multi-task on a Touch. </p>
<p>I can see having a few of them (5-10) around for listening to podcasts or spending a few minutes on Google Earth, but choosing 30 Touches in lieu of 30 netbooks?  I&#8217;m yet to be convinced.</p>
<p>As Apple themselves demonstrate, the iPod Touch is a sidekick to a laptop, not a replacement.<br />
<a href="http://www.apple.com/education/teachers-professors/mobile-learning.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.apple.com/education/teachers-professors/mobile-learning.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://avenue4learning.com/2009/03/03/laptops-vs-handhelds/comment-page-1/#comment-126</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 21:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting viewpoint, Michelle.  I&#039;m not sure that student&#039;s preferences supersede increased software applications (the App Store is growing, yes, but without a doubt finite) given the similar price points as  your previous commenter has pointed out.  As a math educator, I also have many software packages and web applications that I&#039;d like students to use that do not lend themselves to the Touch.  See http://davidwarlick.com/2cents/?p=1696 for my extended thoughts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting viewpoint, Michelle.  I&#8217;m not sure that student&#8217;s preferences supersede increased software applications (the App Store is growing, yes, but without a doubt finite) given the similar price points as  your previous commenter has pointed out.  As a math educator, I also have many software packages and web applications that I&#8217;d like students to use that do not lend themselves to the Touch.  See <a href="http://davidwarlick.com/2cents/?p=1696" rel="nofollow">http://davidwarlick.com/2cents/?p=1696</a> for my extended thoughts.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Baldwin</title>
		<link>http://avenue4learning.com/2009/03/03/laptops-vs-handhelds/comment-page-1/#comment-125</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle Baldwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 05:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a good argument, but I think kids would still choose the iTouch. I will probably do a survey with some K-12 kids soon to see what they think. My guess is, if given the same options of using a Netbook or an iTouch with similar capabilities, they&#039;ll go for the smaller tool. Just a hunch. 

Thanks for the comment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a good argument, but I think kids would still choose the iTouch. I will probably do a survey with some K-12 kids soon to see what they think. My guess is, if given the same options of using a Netbook or an iTouch with similar capabilities, they&#8217;ll go for the smaller tool. Just a hunch. </p>
<p>Thanks for the comment!</p>
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		<title>By: BK_Teach</title>
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		<dc:creator>BK_Teach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 02:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>iPod Touch = $229
Net book = $299

Is that a closer comparison?  Does it change your mind?

My thought it that at that cost difference, I&#039;d opt for a net book.  Full keyboard is the main reason.

On the other hand, I agree with all your arguments above.  If someone makes a keyboard for Touch, I might just jump on the bandwagon.

Great post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>iPod Touch = $229<br />
Net book = $299</p>
<p>Is that a closer comparison?  Does it change your mind?</p>
<p>My thought it that at that cost difference, I&#8217;d opt for a net book.  Full keyboard is the main reason.</p>
<p>On the other hand, I agree with all your arguments above.  If someone makes a keyboard for Touch, I might just jump on the bandwagon.</p>
<p>Great post!</p>
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